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slow swing and lazy boom on cold mornings, normal or a problem?

Started by ken_on_a_pc360 · Sep 11, 2025 · in Maintenance and repair

2014 PC360LC-10, 7,800 hours, serial starts A32. it was 38 degrees here this morning and the first 20 minutes the swing was slow like it was thinking about it, and the boom would settle a couple inches if i held a load up. after it warmed up, fine, digs like always. did the same thing last april.

hydraulic oil is whatever the previous owner ran, i have had it two years and changed the filters but not the oil. is this just cold oil or am i looking at a pump? do not want to get into november and find out.

slow swing cold is oil. boom settling cold and NOT warm is also mostly oil, thick oil leaks past the control valve spools slower, wait, other way, warm thin oil should leak more. so if it settles cold and not warm, that points at the boom holding valve or the cylinder seals being stiff when cold, and both of those are things that get worse not better.

before you chase anything: what oil is in it. if the last guy ran a 46 and you are in Duluth, that is your morning problem right there. book for that machine in your climate is a 32 or a multigrade. drain it, look at what comes out, send a sample.

you northern guys and your cold. down here 38 is a myth. but i had a PC300 do the boom settle thing and it was the boom lowering pilot check, the little cartridge on the boom cylinder line. 140 bucks and an hour. did not fix it until i also cleaned the pilot filter which was full of junk. worth checking before you convince yourself it is a pump.

drained it. 68 gallons of something that looked like maple syrup and smelled burnt. the tag on the tank said ISO 68. so the last owner ran a 68 in northern Minnesota, which explains the mornings. pilot filter was not great either, replaced it. filled with the multigrade the komatsu dealer in Duluth recommended, sample from the old oil sent to the lab.

swing was normal this morning at 41 degrees. boom still settles a little cold but way less. going to do the pilot check cartridge like Delta said since i have the part coming anyway.

68 in duluth. that machine has been trying to tell you for two years. post the lab results when they come back, if the wear metals are high after running that thick that long you want to know now.

and for anybody reading in march: warm up procedure on a cold morning is idle 5 minutes, then cycle every function slow at low idle with no load for another 5 to 10 until the temp gauge moves. not full stick to the stops in the first minute like the guys on tiktok.

lab came back. iron and copper a bit elevated, silicon high which is the dirty pilot filter and probably a breather. nothing they flagged as urgent, they said resample at 250 hours. pilot check cartridge went in, boom holds cold now. total spent: oil about 1,400, filters 210, cartridge 140, lab 35. cheaper than the pump i was talking myself into.

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